improve system tray

The system tray should be able to be modified much like some of the other toolbars on the taskbar. Also the clock should change display methods based on the width of the side docked start bar.
I think you will see a lot more people use side docking, or double layer start bars since they fixed the problem with the start button clickable area since windows XP.
Currently the sytem tray displays the icons on two lines even though they could all fit on one, also being able to disable it would be a nice option too.
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The system tray should be able to be modified much like some of the other toolbars on the taskbar. Also the clock should change display methods based on the width of the side docked start bar.
I think you will see a lot more people use side docking, or double layer start bars since they fixed the problem with the start button clickable area since windows XP.
Currently the sytem tray displays the icons on two lines even though they could all fit on one, also being able to disable it would be a nice option too.
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:06:45 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

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You make this point quite often. Interesting, you don't think MS monitors this group at all? Not challenging the notion, just surprised. So, in general public NGs are of no interest to them? Again, surprising if true.

"DJ Bjorklund" wrote in message

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:06:45 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
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You make this point quite often. Interesting, you don't think MS monitors this group at all? Not challenging the notion, just surprised. So, in general public NGs are of no interest to them? Again, surprising if true.

Not only that, apparently the general public is of no interest to them as well...

Not in an msnews server (public) newsgroup. Even in TechBeta (which is on the betanews servers) the newsgroups are not managed groups. The msnews newsgroups are set up for user to user interaction only. It isn't a question of interest.
If an MS employee happens to hang out in a public newsgroup to help out with general questions, he is volunteering his own time and is unlikely to be from the team a particular comment or suggestion addresses anyway. If he forwards a suggestion it is purely the result of his taking a personal interest.
Managed newsgroups are another matter. They are moderated by an MS specialist and users are guaranteed answers in two working days. Often, these newsgroups are part of user subscription programs, such as contracted early adoption programs, and so are not free.
Feedback made via the MBC, on the other hand, is triaged by the Vista teams to make sure each report is dealt with by the team that owns the feature in question. Triage meetings, so I have been told, can get very spirited. The last number I saw was over 120,000 bugs reported through the MBC and triaged.
Hope this helps.
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:06:45 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
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You make this point quite often. Interesting, you don't think MS monitors this group at all? Not challenging the notion, just surprised. So, in general public NGs are of no interest to them? Again, surprising if true.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:31:25 -0400, "Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote:

"DJ Bjorklund" wrote in message On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:06:45 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
Microsoft will not see your comments here. Use the Feedback icon on your desktop to sent your thoughts to MS.
You make this point quite often. Interesting, you don't think MS monitors this group at all? Not challenging the notion, just surprised. So, in general public NGs are of no interest to them? Again, surprising if true.
Not only that, apparently the general public is of no interest to them as well...

<grin>

Well said Mark. Arrogance at Redmond and some of the other campuses reaches a new level. But a lot of the softies still have trouble working Windows and Office.
CH
"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote in message

"DJ Bjorklund" wrote in message On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:06:45 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
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You make this point quite often. Interesting, you don't think MS monitors this group at all? Not challenging the notion, just surprised. So, in general public NGs are of no interest to them? Again, surprising if true.
Not only that, apparently the general public is of no interest to them as well...

My experience is that feedback that gets results is terrible no matter the group period. I've seen it fail in all of them. MSFT has little interest in what the public thinks of Windows as long as they can get sales levels up and do what they want. The European Union screwup is a perfect example of their attitude. They are phoning in Vista now as far as feedback in any venue. And it's showing. Major features go unfixed.
CH
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

Not in an msnews server (public) newsgroup. Even in TechBeta (which is on the betanews servers) the newsgroups are not managed groups. The msnews newsgroups are set up for user to user interaction only. It isn't a question of interest.
If an MS employee happens to hang out in a public newsgroup to help out with general questions, he is volunteering his own time and is unlikely to be from the team a particular comment or suggestion addresses anyway. If he forwards a suggestion it is purely the result of his taking a personal interest.
Managed newsgroups are another matter. They are moderated by an MS specialist and users are guaranteed answers in two working days. Often, these newsgroups are part of user subscription programs, such as contracted early adoption programs, and so are not free.
Feedback made via the MBC, on the other hand, is triaged by the Vista teams to make sure each report is dealt with by the team that owns the feature in question. Triage meetings, so I have been told, can get very spirited. The last number I saw was over 120,000 bugs reported through the MBC and triaged.
Hope this helps.
"DJ Bjorklund" wrote in message On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:06:45 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst" colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote:
Microsoft will not see your comments here. Use the Feedback icon on your desktop to sent your thoughts to MS.
You make this point quite often. Interesting, you don't think MS monitors this group at all? Not challenging the notion, just surprised. So, in general public NGs are of no interest to them? Again, surprising if true.